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How Can A Stand-Alone Puppet Jump Starts A Comedian's Career And To Fame? | Joselito The Puppet | The Hustleman Show Episode 6

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In this episode of the Hustle Man Podcast, Mohammed Easmael sits down with a comedian, Joselito, who’s also a puppeteer. Originally started as a stand-alone comedian, under the name “Woody Wood”, he would go through shows as a stand-up. However, one day after witnessing a puppet show on television, he came up an interesting idea. After some experimentation, the puppet “Joselito” was born, which boosted his career into the spotlight. Throughout the podcast, Joselito would discuss his journey through the comedian world, using his puppet, Joselito, to become the stand-up!



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What interests me the most about his story is how he turned up puppet into a hustle. So coming into standup, I was kind of like a student at the game before I even got into it. So I was well aware of the fact that the standup hustle a very slow hustle how that business works two years just even see my first comedy money. And that was only 25 bucks. Yeah yeah yeah, but to you, for somebody to pay to do that that's gotta be huge, right? Like first making your first 20 bucks, 25, whatever, a hundred dollars just to get that kind of money initially that's gotta be huge. For you an artist music when you hit like all these little rappers and you're just like, they all kind of sound the same, but they all kind of copying off each other and feeding off that same energy. But then after a while, you'll notice, they'll come out with that one hit song, but it's like, all right, now that's his real sound. That's his real voice! You're back for another episode of The Hustleman Show. I want to welcome you back. So we've got a lot of different kinds of people on the show in the past. We've had business owners on there. We've had artists on here. We've had people that own grow farms, in California. All right. But one thing we've never had one thing we probably won't have again. And then in the, uh, the near future, unless it's this guy again, is a puppeteer. All right. When I found out about this guy on Instagram, I just, I was automatically hooked. I followed this guy's content for about a year, year and a half. I think he's hilarious. I think a lot of people who agree, very, very entertaining guy. Very cool dude, overall, just a good guy. You know that I got to know him, but what interests me the most about his story is how he turned a puppet into a hustle. So, you know, naturally launching this podcast, you know, I have to have my man on here. I got my man, none other than Joselito, the puppeteer. What's good, man. What's good. What's good. Is that, is that intro cool for you? Do people normally just go by Joselito when they're talking to you or did they introduce you in a different way? Yeah. Yeah. Not everybody calls me Joselito, that's no problem, I don't have that identity crisis. Oh, good. Good, good, good, good, Good. So listen, you know, you know, the show, I don't know if you've got an opportunity to listen to one of the podcasts or anything like that, but I heard, I heard one of the first episodes there. Yeah. Okay, good. So the premise of the show is to get people on here that are turning there, they've taken whatever route that they've had in life in order to build a business for themselves. What you do is very, very interesting. It's interesting for me, definitely. And interesting. It's also interesting that a lot of different people, so I wanted to get you on here really, you know, pull that back a bit and get an understanding of how you got into this thing. So what, how do you, how do you go from like picking up a puppet to turn it into like a real, real hustle, man? I think that's very, that's a very interesting thing that people want to know about. Okay. So, um, to, to fully explain the whole Joselito journey, we got to start with, uh, me, myself. Um, so I started as a standup comedian first, um, just as myself, uh, you know, no puppet, um, act or anything. Um, so I started back in, I want to say like late 2006, early 2007 doing stand up. Um, I was doing standup for about like five years. And then, um, around like 2012, beginning of 2012, I started noticing the, um, the trend of, uh, the online comedy with the videos and the skits were becoming popular. So, um, I actually had a buddy of mine from, uh, cause I'm actually originally from Boston. I live in New York now. So, um, I was coming up in the comedy game in Boston and I had a buddy of mine who, um, I had been doing comedy for like five years at this point he had just started like doing comedy. And then he came to like one of my shows to kind of check me out and kinda like get some pointers from me. And then like six months later, I see this kid got like 40,000 followers on Instagram. He's like getting booked for these shows and I'm like, Oh, what the hell is this kid doing? Like Facebook videos? So I was like, noticing like, okay, like, this is kind of like a little wave now that can kind of get people, you know, uh, some, some traction and attention. So I started doing videos as myself. Um, my stage name when I was doing my regular comedy was Woody Wood. So I was doing videos as myself on YouTube and Facebook. They really wasn't hitting like that. And then, uh, one day I was just brainstorming ideas at my house. And, um, my daughter was with me and she was watching little puppet on a Nickelodeon. It was called crash and Bernstein was the name of the shows she was watching. But, um, it reminded me of a show that I used to watch when I was younger and it was called my cousin Skeeter. And, um, I kind of just liked the whole premise of, of the puppet being around humans. And the puppy was kind of like his own person. Like even though everybody around him was a human. So I was like, uh, I was like, what if I came up with a Puerto Rican puppet, did the same thing, you know, kind of swag them out with the clothes and, you know, just have everybody, all my boys around them and stuff. So I literally that same night I Googled Puerto Rican puppet and Joselito popped up. His name was already Jose. So I added the Lito, uh, cause in Spanish lito means little, so little Jose would be the translation of his name. And then, um, I just started doing skits with him. And then at first I was doing those sporadically, like maybe like every month I'd put out a video on YouTube and they were getting better views than I was getting as myself, but I was still more focused on my stand-up. And so, uh, the summer of 2015, no, I'm sorry, 2016. I, um, one of my videos went crazy viral on Facebook. I caught a million views overnight and that's when I started putting all my attention into Joselito. Yeah. I see. Um, so your, your, your, your, your wave on your own before picking up the puppet, you're doing like standup, like what are you doing exactly? Like for five years, you said before, before I really, before you really picked up a puppet and you were inspired by your daughter, which is what was really dope by the way, how do you, how do you do, like, what were you doing in that timeframe before you picked that up? But five years is a long time, right? A lot of people could have quit in that, in that timeframe. Right? A lot of people will be like, listen, you know, this may not be working for me. I could go on and do something else. You stuck with it. So what was going on in that timeframe that made you think like, I can keep going. Okay. So like, um, before, like I said, when I started stand up, this was all pre social media days. So there was no such thing as like, like I said, like the video just blowing up overnight. And so coming into stand up, I was kind of like a student of the game before I even got into it. So I was well aware of the fact that, um, the standup hustle is a very slow hustle. So like, um, when I was at my five-year point, like you're still a baby, like, uh, Jerry Seinfeld has a famous quote that a lot of communities say they like, and stand up. You're as old as how many years you've been doing it. So at five years in, only a five-year old baby still like, you know, like you don't really hit your stride and stand up until like your 10 year Mark, and then that's when guys, uh, um, there's like levels to it. So when you first get into standup, you consider the open micer. You're going to open mics, you're trying to get your voice. You're trying to get your jokes together. Um, after about a year or two, you know, if you're going on the right path, you should be, um, what they call an opener. So like an opener on a stand-up show, there's three, usually three comedians. There's the headliner, which is the main guy that everybody's coming to see. There's a feature, which is the guy that goes right before the headliner. And then there's an opener, which will be the guy that comes on first. And then you have your host. So, um, after about two years you become an opener. If you're, you know, making good traction in the scene and stuff and you, you progressing. Um, so when you're, open-air, you're making like anywhere from like 20 to 50 bucks a night for like a five to 10 minutes set, So you're not making a million bucks a night? I still have my day job. Like I said, it's, it's a grind. And then a five-year point, which was out where I was at before the Joselito thing. Now you're at that point, you're like a feature. So that's considered like a Milder. So you get anywhere from like a hundred, so 150 bucks for a 20 minute set. Um, and then you're trying to work your way to become a headliner. Once you're a headliner you're making about 300 or 500 bucks a show, and you're doing 45 minutes to an hour. But, um, if you have a big, name, and you can, you know, get asses in the seats, then I would that number dramatically increases. But, um, if you're just like a local headliner and nobody really knows your name, but you're hilarious. You've been in the game for a while. You could get like three to 500 bucks. So that's what I was working towards. I was trying to get that, uh, headline in spot. Um, but then the Joselito stuff took off and that kind of just leapfrogged me to the headline, the spot, you know, years before I probably would've made it on my own. That's dope, bro. Um, I was glad to have you on here before this, but understanding how the numbers work and understanding how the circuit works. So you was like, you was really going around like really doing these clubs, these spots for five years. Yeah. I had a couple of clubs that, um, what comedy clubs do is they put the comedians on a roster. So if you're, if you're a comedian, um, every comedy club probably got like a roster of 20 comedians and you know, every weekend they'll pick five of those guys to come and work for them. Like if, once you become a part of it, that's what you want to work till it's being on the roster for a comedy club. Cause now you own that recurring and you know, it's almost like a job, you know, you are the you on the, uh, the shift, the, the payroll. So it's like, all right, now, you know, you got guaranteed work at least once a week or every two weeks, you know, you got guaranteed work from this one club. And that's what you're trying to do. Just build up that rapport with different comedy clubs, trying to get on the roster, trying to get different shows and stuff. Um, another thing that gets comedians, uh, some traction is doing a lot of like contests or festivals. So like similar to, like you ever heard of like rolling loud for music? I've heard. Yeah. I've heard of it before. It was like a festival. So comedy has our own version of that. Um, so there's one of the biggest one there is, is in Montreal. It's called the Montreal comedy festival. And then they got ones like individual ones, like New York city comedy, well, Boston comedy festival. So you enter into these festivals, the farther you get it, it's almost like a mini last comic standing type of thing. Like, you know, the farther you get now you got agents in the crowd, you got other club owners. It's like a rap battle? It's like, it's like a rap battle for comedians? Yeah. And then you get that little credit too. Like, I was a finalist like me per se. I was a finalist in three concepts, uh, the, uh, Boston comedy festival and then the new England comedy festival where I made it to the finals, didn't win the whole thing. But you know, that got my name locally buzzing a little more. I was able to get more bookings from that and stuff like that. That's dope. That's dope. There's a lot of insight there on, on how that business works. How do you, how do you- Obviously the standup, you really gotta love standup comedy or comedy in general to stick with it. Cause like you said, like people think they gotta get on stage and within two weeks, then the next Kevin Hart, but it's not that easy. Like I said, it's that same, uh, that famous saying it takes 10 years to make open next success. That's so true. Especially in the comedy game. Cause it could take you 10 years just to like, it took me two years just even see my first comedy money. And I was only 25 bucks. Like For somebody to pay you to do that has got to be huge, right? Like first making your first 20 bucks, 25, whatever a hundred dollars just to get that kind of money. Initially. It's got to be huge for you as an artist Actually. Uh, with- with me I got it all at once. So it was like, I got my first money cause I had one around in a contest, um, that I was in. So I won like a prize for, I think it was like 25 or 50 bucks that they gave me. But then, um, I made it to the final round and I lost, I came in third place, but then after the show, the club owner came to me and she was like, Oh, she was like, Oh, you did so good. She was like, I'm gonna put you on the roster as an opener because I know. And we pay you 25 bucks. And then, uh, and it's not just a 25, but it's not even just for your comedy. Cause then as the opener, you're still like so low on the totem pole that they got you doing all the little random stuff to like see people before they get in and take the tickets at the front. It's like, you're, it's like, you're an intern in an organization. That's what it is. You got to put your time in. Yeah. And then you get to the, Oh, you know, you get on stage and everybody's like, didn't you just say my ticket out the door? Like, Yeah. So you're you decided to become a comic bro. Like what, how does somebody do that? Like how do they mentally decide like, this is what I want to do. Like I heard Jerry Seinfeld's story. I just thought just watching, you know, his, his growth over the years and Hey, you know, he comes from a wealthy family. Like he comes from like, he's, he's got a decent background. So he's, he decides to do that. It's it's straight love. Like he doesn't need to do that, but he does that because he, you know, he wants to, how do you decide, like mentally to go into this, this field where it's like super competitive? Like this It's funny you say that too. Cause especially, uh, when I was coming up in Boston, there's so many guys like that, like, um, they don't necessarily need to do it. They come from money and sometimes it actually benefits those guys because they got the time. They don't have to like me per se, as though I had to maintain a full-time job, I had a daughter, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, I couldn't even, I had to miss out on certain shows cause I would have to work or I had to take care of the family stuff. So sometimes it benefits those guys cause they get to, um, they got all the free time and they got, you know, trust fund or mommy and daddy paying for their rent and bills. And you know, they got all the time in the world to work on their comedy. But um, for me, I just always knew, I always wanted to be a standup comedian. That was since I was like eight, nine years old, I was just, um, I used to watch a lot of stand up, um, with my stepfather at the time. Um, like any Murphy John, it was I'm on like, this was like in the nineties, early nineties. Um, and live in color. I like, I like love the Waynes brothers. Um, Jamie Fox show, like all those, all those shows, uh, came up, watching all of them, influence- were you the class clown? in class and school? I was always in the game. You just want it to be there that came natural to you? That came natural to you? That whole like be the center of attention type of thing. Yeah. That always came natural to me and busting jokes on the spot and what I was coming up to, it was big. But the yo mama jokes, you had to be quick on your feet. Yeah, yeah. Or my first, actually my first time ever doing up was for a talent show at my high school. Um, I was a junior in high school, but I was straight for Gacy. I was so young. Like, all I did was like remix. I pulled like a PDD move. I remixed a bunch of jokes that I had heard on like BET comics, like Def comedy jam. (put it on replay) And I kind of remix them into my own. Cause I didn't really know what I was doing. I was like 15 at the time, but um, I ended up winning third place on that. And then, um, uh, I graduated high school a few years later and um, I had a job at like a youth center back home in Boston and um, one of my supervisors, like you said, I was always cracking jokes at work and you know, just always goofy with it. And uh, one of my supervisors is like, you know, my, um, one of my cousins is a standup comedian. He was, she was like, I'm gonna see if I can get you on one of the shows. Cause I know you been wanting to like, you know, get your feet wet with standup, like professionally. Cause I had, I had done at that point, it was the talent show and um, she was like, I was like, okay. She came in the next day. I didn't really think she was going to be able to do it. I like kind of forgot about it. And she came in the next day and she was like, Sunday, you got five minutes. And I'm like, Oh shoot. So that was like my first show. And I spent the whole rest of the week, uh, writing jokes and trying to like figure out my, what my set was going to be. And um, I went, did the show. She had picked me up, did the show and I did like so good. Like I did better than I had expected. I was going to do, uh, to the point where the, the, the lady that runs the show or whatever came up to me after the show. Cause I didn't tell her that it was my first time doing comedy. I wanted to keep it a secret. So when I was on stage, I actually mentioned that like, yo, thank you guys for laughing. This is my first time I was nervous. So she came up to me after the show that she was like, um, she was like, Oh my God, I can't believe that was your first time. She was like, I haven't seen somebody that funny on the first time since Dane Cook and then Cook Lexi from Boston as well. People don't know he's a big time comedian. Uh, so I got gas in the head. I'm like, Oh yeah, I'm out of here. So the next week she's like, come back next week, you got to come back next week. So I come back next week and like I said, I'm still such a rookie in the game. They, I didn't even know. They stand up, comedians use the same material over and over again. And they building up a set, like I'm thinking like the audience thinks like every time you come, they got to have something new and there's always new jokes. So I'm sitting there waiting for my turn backstage and there was a couple of guys from the week before and they all telling the same jokes and I'm like, huh, look at these guys. They suck. I'm like, they still telling the jokes from that, What they're doing, what they're doing is they're they're- And I bombed with my new batch of jokes. I bombed like so hard Because the jokes that I hit the same and- What they did is they hit the same as you know, and then, but I'm glad it happened that way in that order, because I think if I had bombed the first time, I would've never came back. But the fact that I did so well the first time and then bombed the second time it gave me the motivation to say I have the potential, but now I just need to learn the ropes of the behind the scenes of how it works. Because you know, obviously it's a consistency thing, you know? So that, then that was the process from there. It was trying to like become a better standup Initial that initial time that you went. Right? And you just got that kind of rush that high, right. From being on stage and just kind of doing, doing your thing. Was that, was that the moment you were hooked or were you hooked before that? Well, I was at the, before when I did it for the time to show the high school, but yeah, when I did it for the actual comedy club, it was different. It was definitely a different rush because I don't know it was different. Cause I was already a little popular in high school and known as like the funny guy. So it's kind of easier to make, you know, the high school kids laugh. It's like everything's goofy. Yeah. What to be up there on a stage in front of all of those peoples completely different scenario. I was standing up in front of grown adults. You know, it was like a real comedy club. Like people paid to come and see it. So I'm like, Oh man, but it is, it's a Rush. And um, most stand-ups will say it's like, once you get that first taste, it's almost like they say, it's like a drug. Like you want to keep that laughter like that laughter drug coming. Because after the show you do feel like a million bucks. Like, Oh my God, I just made 200 people just ass off! Co comedy as a business is crazy. It is crazy. I mean, I see, I see. I mean the comm, the business of comedy is just such an interesting business. It really is. You said something about like acids and seeds. What is a great headliner? What does a great headliner get in terms of asses in seats? How many people should somebody that's a really, really good headline to be able to bring into a room. I'm not talking about Kevin Hart's status. I'm talking about a solid comedian? Okay. So a solid comedian, um, I would say anywhere from four to five hundred people, somebody that's been making the rounds, like, you know, like, like you said, not on that Kevin Hart level. Um, but what a lot of comedians do. Okay. So for example, like, uh, there's a guy based out of New York is he's a comedian and a friend of mine. His name is Carlos three. I don't know if you've heard of him. He has a podcast too, but um, like somebody like him will fill out like a 400, like Caroline's, I don't know if you've heard of Caroline's In New York? So that's like one of the middle clubs where it's like, you know, you're not doing the garden, Madison square garden, you're hitting Caroline. So like a Tracy Morgan, uh, like I said, a Godfrey, um, guys like that, how they come through this, Michael Blackson, their capacity is like around 500 guys will do is they'll come and they'll do like a whole weekend show showcase. It's called the showcase. So they'll do like two shows a Friday night, two shows, Saturday night, two shows Sunday night. So in total they're doing six shows selling each one out 500. So, you know, by the end of the weekend, they probably brought out like a good two to three thousand people. That's crazy, bro. So like for myself the hour and I, you know, I'm not on their level yet, but I'm past like the local headline. Um, the most I've ever brought out was, uh, 600 people and one night. Um, and then, you know, you do the math depending on the name, like the bigger names charge, more per ticket, you know, they're charging like$40, $$50 bucks a ticket. Me and myself, I charged like $20, $25 a ticket, um, most comedy clubs. Um, what they do is they give you a percentage of the door. So you get anywhere from like 60 to 80% of the door, depending on the comedy club. And then, uh, so you know, you do the math like me per se, on the lower end. Uh, you get, if I, if I, if I could get a bad show for me would be 50 people. Only, only 50 people showed up, but I was still walking away with a thousand dollars for them, Both 50. People's a lot of people. That's crazy. Yeah. But, and, and that's on the lower side. Like, you know, cause normally I average between 150 to like 200 people would show. Wow. So I usually make anywhere from like two to five thousand a night, if you know, on the, on the good end, then you add in the merge sales at the end of the night, you know, if you got merged, that could be like another thousand to 1500 on top of everything. So there's sometimes you, you know, you can make some really, really good money. If you got a name for yourself and you can get the asses in the seats. And then the comedy clubs, that's all they really care about is if you're filling the seats, they don't even particularly care. If you're a good comedian, They just want people in the door they make, they're making their money, water, liquor sales. Yeah, and then that's the big beef right now, too in the, behind the scenes comedy. Well, sure. Cause it's funny. Cause I, I kind of walk a thin line between both cause I started in standup, took it to social media and I kind of leveraged both, but you got your traditional standup guys who, like I said earlier, worked 10, 15 years to become a headliner. And then they see some 18 year old kid and influence him three months, they got a million followers and they're packing out shows and they don't know how to do a liquor stand up in front of 500 people. But the comedy clubs don't care because the kids just brought 500 people like, you know, but the other, the OGs of the, and they'll be looking at you crazy, like why, why, why you want to say like, well, what's the difference? Why can't, I believe it's like, well, you can't get 500 people in this place. How do you navigate this situation? This whole COVID situation? Because it sounds like those, those doing those shows is a big, it's a big deal between getting the bodies in the doors, getting that percentage. And then at the same time doing like the merchant sales and everything, but you got a merchant table, you set up over there to sell. How do you navigate that through, through this whole COVID situation? Um, well it, it, it, I lost out. I lost out on 25,000. Um, I had to cancel a 20 city tour. Um, I had just signed with a new booking agency at the beginning of the year, um, based out of LA. So I have, um, two agencies that I work with. Um, one's based out of New York. And then, um, the other one's based out of LA, I just signed with the second one out of LA because my homeschool, my New York agency was having trouble getting me booked on the West coast. So he linked me with a different agency that was based out of the West coast to try to get me more exposure out there. So we, between my two agencies, we lined up on a 20 city tour. It was going to start at the beginning of April. And at the end of may, that's when the whole COVID stuff came in March. So I didn't even get a chance to even start my tour. I did one last show in Philly, which was March 7th. And then I had to cancel my whole tour because it was going to be sponsored by live nation. Yeah yeah yeah, that's big! Yeah. It's like a big promotional company. So that was going to sponsor my tour. But now live nation doesn't want to touch any shows until 2021. So right now I'm just starting to get my feet wet with some shows here and there. Um, that I've been booking it in the, in the States that are fully open now, like, um, just did a show in Milwaukee, just did a show in Chicago. Um, got another batch of shows coming up in Florida next month. Um, so I'm just kind of playing it by ear as certain cities and States to open it up. Um, like promoters are reaching me out and trying to book me again. So my agents trying to get me booked again and, and, you know, just kind of taking it day by day, uh, ever since the COVID I just kind of flipped it more and been focusing one of my social media and online stuff. Bro, you're very much like a high bird of like influencer and, and stand up, being able to bro, what I've noticed based on is this influencer vibe. What I've noticed was that some of these guys, they can't transition over to stand up and it feels like to me, based on what I see like standup is really where it's at, because then when you get bodies in the door, that's where the money's at. So have you tried to tell guys that cause what it is with the, with the Instagram guys is like I said, they, um, I kinda just came up in an era where it was, like I said, I started stand up when there was no social media. And then I was started coming into my own when social media was also coming into its own. So I was kind of blessed in that way where I kind of just was a right time at the right place to everything. Cause uh, I got a taste of both and I'm able to blend them both. But um, I be trying to tell guys that all the time from both, I be trying to tell the up guys, you need to get on social media and get your social media presence up. So then you can leverage the standup, you know, more. And I've been trying to tell the social media guys start working on stand up though. But you know, it's one of those things where guys, you know, they, they feel more comfortable in one than the other and they don't really realize because the thing with the Instagram and the social media guys is that, uh, you, uh, you fall in love with the other type of money you get from there, which is like, um, club appearances club hostings, um, promotional, skits, you know, they do skates and stuff. So I'm sure some of the guys get, you know, branded by big companies with big companies would sponsor them just to do certain amount of skits per year or whatnot. So some of them guys are already making a decent amount of money online where they don't really think about the standup stuff or even realize that they can make so much money doing stand up. But I be trying to tell people all the time, like I said, from both, which is funny, cause I'm in both. So I tell the stand up guys and I go get on social media. They're like, maybe be like, I don't know how you guys do. And then same thing with the social media guys. They're like, I don't know how you can do this. Oh, stand up is not easy, man. Getting up there in front of a stage, being live in front of all those people and, and having a routine, a set just it does. It's not an easy thing to do. I mean, you great, great comics. They make it look easy, but it's not really easy at all. You got to have something that you perfected over the years. And like you said, you spent five years before you got up, you got some kind of momentum doing it. So I'm sure that's not the easiest thing to do. Um, So let me, Let me ask you a question. You, you you're, you're building this thing, like what's, what's next for you, bro. Man, you got you, You think like that, like, all right. So right now I'm doing like these, like I'm touring, I'm going to this state, this state, um, um, I'm building up on that. Like I have a, a longterm play or a longterm plan. Does that cross your mind? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, because of the whole COVID stuff, it kind of like sidetracked my whole plan because I definitely did have a plan of action for this year that, um, me and my agencies were talking about and we had, um, the original plan was to do the 20 city tour. We was going to film the whole thing, um, put, uh, put together a little, uh, demo for, uh, Netflix. Cause we was trying to pitch it a standup special as Joselito to Netflix. So we was trying to, you know, kind of show the presidents that we have, the online presence. We also have the, um, in-person presence of, you know, being able to do a 20 city tour, get people to come out and show like, you know, show all that behind the scenes, stuff of how people interact with Joselito and you know, and, and get those standup footage together. And, um, that was the original plan. That's still in emotion too, but we know we just gotta wait till we can get back on the road. But, um, in the meantime, I'm just trying to like make, like I said, maintain the social media presence cause they all goes hand in hand. So, uh, trying to just keep the followers climb and trying to keep the views going up, you know, trying to get all that. Bro whatever it is that you're doing is working. Um, I'm a fan. I mean that bro, I'm a fan. I love, I love, I love that. I love the, uh, the account man. I watch it regularly. I mean, it's dope for the people that don't know what your, what your handle is on IG. Just hit, hit them with it real quick. That way they know that. And we'll add that in the description of this video. Yeah, of course. It's a D the letter D puppet Joselito. J O S E L I T O and that's on everything. Uh, my all social media platforms, uh, you can actually Google me Joselito the puppet and everything will pop up as well. You've got a YouTube channel where you put stuff up> Yeah, my YouTube is up. Uh, I got about 25K subscribers on my YouTube as well. Um, I was, uh, that was another form of income for me, but I actually got demonetized recently because, uh, my content is just too sexual, crazy, crazy. But, um, but yeah, I still post on that regularly because I have a lot of fans that, um, don't have regular social media, like Facebook or nothing like that. So, um, they only watch me on YouTube. So I try to repost all of my, my videos from social media onto YouTube as well. That's dope, so for, for, for somebody that's watching this right now and they're like, you, you know, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, starting off in the comedy scene, what, what advice would you give them? As they started off in comedy, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. They just getting their feet wet. They're at the same point that you were, when you went to that first show. I would tell them, like, I've been saying throughout the podcast is, um, you know, don't be afraid to try avenues of comedy, um, get your feet wet with the stand up, get your feet wet with the social media and the videos and stuff. Start a podcast, see, see what fits you best. But don't like, uh, you know, don't just X out something just because, you know, that's not for me cause you never know which one is going to take off. Like (for sure) for me, for instance started in standup, but then the video set me off and now I was able to bring it back to the standup, you know? So it all comes full circle when it comes to comedy. Um, another thing I would say is just try to stay as original as possible. Um, try to stay away from the cliche stuff, cliche jokes. Um, cause I noticed personally it takes people a while to find their voice, um, in comedy. Um, that's what it's called. Like when you have a cause in the beginning, it's like, everybody's kinda, you just kind of copying what you think comedy is, you know, if you love Kevin Hart, your first couple of shows, you probably going to be sounding just like Kevin Hart. For sure. Like for me, when I first started, I used to always get, uh, Eddie Murphy, which was, but it was weird. Cause I would get, you sound like donkey from Shrek, which to me was, you know, You're mimicking these people, which is a form of flattery, right? You look at them and that's what you want to be? Yeah. Yeah. It's almost like in music when you hear like all these new rappers and you're just like, they all kind of sound the same, but they all kind of copying off each other and feeding off that same energy. But then after awhile, you'll notice, they'll come out with that one hit song where it's like, all right, now that's his real sound. That's his voice. Like, that's how it is in comedy too. Is like, once you kind of feel, you get so far out and, and experiment with jokes. Cause like for me, for instance, I noticed once I started being more personal and coming up with stories that really happened to me. Like those always get the best reaction, you know, as opposed to trying to do like the cliche, like, like right now, like a lot of comedians like to do the current events stuff like the presidency stuff or whatever's in the news, which you know, that stuff gets it. They'll get a laugh here and there, but then that has a time limit to it too, because now you can only say it for so many shows before now. That's the last weeks news. Nobody wants to hear about that. So when you speak from your own personal experiences, there's no timeframe on that. You could have one joke. That's really good and use it for 20 years. If it was that good. Like, you know, Th th the truth in comedy is timeless, right? That's what makes a joke. That's why you go watch like Eddie Murphy skit on YouTube from like forever ago and shit still funny. It's timeless comedy. Yeah. Yeah. That's my, actually, that's, that's some of the best stuff that I like to watch. Some of the older stuff, Murphy stuff is crazy. Um, so if people want to, they want to support you. They want to support what you're doing. Where can they go? Do you have a website where you sell that dope hat? You have a website where you sell some merchants, stuff like that? Of course, it's puppet wave.com, www dot puppet, wave.com for any merchandise. Um, if you guys want to support as well, you can hit up my only fans page, uh, only thing is backslash supposedly to the puppet. Um, it's only $5 a month for, um, exclusive skits and content on there. And, um, and yeah, uh, you can check out my social media pages for updates on my shows. See, when I'm coming to your town, come check out a live show, check out my videos as well. Every everything counts, man, every view of you like every comment. So that's the best way to support. What I noticed about you. Rose. You're very, you're very, very smart, you don't give up any opportunities. You leave a lot of this stuff on the table and that that's something that you don't, you don't always see in content creators. Sometimes they, they, they limit themselves mentally to a certain box. You're smart enough to know that no matter what scenario, there's an opportunity that presents itself. And this opportunity that I currently have right now may not be like forever. And I need to make sure that I'm in every box. So based on just what I'm hearing from you do the merch, you do the stand up, you do the, you do the influencer thing. You do the meet and greets. I mean, you drove all the way down from like, what was it? Boston and New York to come down, uh, Queens, Queens. There you go. Yeah. In Queensland, I moved to New York recently. Big that's big. That's big. So if you guys are watching this, I got Joselito The Puppeteer. All right. Is that, is that what people call you the puppeteer? Like what, how do you go about it? What are you going? The comedian puppet master word! So if you guys want to, if you guys want to check out his page, you want to check out his Instagram, it's going to be in the description section of this video. Very, very dope story, bro. Turning, turning up, turning a puppet, turning a puppet into a hustle because you notice that your daughter was watching that and she was entertained by that. That's, that's crazy to me, but like, that's something that's going to resonate with me. Definitely. I think I'm actually the first time I came to that I know of, I have not seen it cause um, most communities do ventriloquism. Right. Which I'm not, like you said, I'm a puppeteer, so I'm not there with Joselito, you know?Throwing my voice, I'm behind the puppet stage. And it's like, it's the puppet is a standup comedian. So I feel like that's the first of its kind. So, so that's what makes it a little different and special too. There's so many of these guys as Jeff Duhnam right? There's a, there's the Muppet's guide. W w you know, the guy that used to do. Yeah, yeah. It's a, it's a big thing, but not many people are doing it in our communities. That's not big. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny too. Cause like before, it's funny that you say the puppet and the puppet medicine. Cause people think of like this big, like freak I'm like before I was Joselito, I could care less about puppet since like, you know, I've gotten in the public game, like I've done my research on Jim Henson on, um, the guy that played Elmo too. He got a documentary on Netflix. That was kind of cool. Uh, all my research on these guys and trying to get that behind the scenes, look on the, on the puppetry side of things too, besides just the stand up. Um, and it's cool. The puppet world is a whole nother world on its own as well. Yeah. It's very, very interesting. So if you guys want to check, check this out, make sure you hit his Instagram, make sure you hit his website, support the guy. If you haven't seen his Instagram page, it is hilarious. Very, very funny. And an all around good dude. This is my guy HOSA lethal the puppeteer, AKA master check out his page. 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