How My Passion Of Cannabis Helped People And Change People's Perception Of Cannabis! | Sai Fai Saeed | The Hustleman Show - Episode 5

In this episode of the Hustle Man Podcast, Mohammed Easmael sits down with Sai Fai Saeed, who specializing in the medical cannabis. Working for nearly 8 years, he has to worked around the legality, and the process in creating proper cannabis for medical use. Throughout the podcast, Sai Fai Saeed discusses the struggle, legality, and how much he has to learn in the Cannabis industry.

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I chose to go on this route mainly because I've always had a passion for cannabis. Before it was legalized and everything you know, just smokingh out with my bros growing up and stuff like that, my own medical reasons without knowing what medical reasons were at that point. So you go to these conventions and you display, and basically, based on the, the yield, that you display. People walk up, what do you what is this guy doing different. So I've always take people to the medical side because I believe in the medical side, seeing what the medical side can do to help a human being. I just always believe in it at that versus the recreational, lets just get high and kick back, woah woah woah type of thing. make sure you do your homework and understand who you're working with and what kind of knowledge, they've got before you just jump into bed with someone, just your life savings into it. This, this whole industry can either make you or break you. What's up, what's up, I'm back for another episode of The Hustleman Show. I got a very very very very interesting guests with me today. This is, this is a brother that I followed remotely distantly for a couple years. He's got an amazing story, hes got an amazing life work right you would call it life work? I call it that. Yeah, absolutely. And it's just about somebody that I really felt that I needed to have on here, so I got my brother Saeed from sci fi. So you want to take a second Introduce yourself tell people what you do, who you are and what you're about? Yeah. Hey guys How you doing, brother Saeed, also known as Sai Fai, involved in Canadian medical industry over in Canada. Been a medical producer and a consultant for the last, close to eight years now. You know, been going through some struggles and stuff like that with the industry and legalization and stuff like that, but uh, yes, it's pretty much a basic, basic part of who I am, you know? Sure. So when you say, when you say industry, brother. Specifically what industry are you involved in? what is But the medical cannabis industry, medical, medical patients. Yeah. So when people hear medical cannabis. It's a very very charged subject cannabis in general, (very) it's a very charged some people have emotions on both sides. This brother just just for background, his brother's a Palestiniann Muslim brother involved in the medical cannabis industry. So it's a it's a very, very charged. Overall, scenario, and I feel like that that's kind of, thats the uniqueness of who you are. Yeah, it really is. Yeah. So you're you're you're in this industry. My question to you is, how do you how do you find yourself in an industry like this? And what how do you, how did you migrate towards it? Plenty of in why why this and why did you choose to go on this route? I chose to go on this route mainly because I've always had a passion for cannabis. Before it was legalized in everything, you know, just smoking out with my bros as growing up and stuff like that for my own medical reasons without knowing what medical reasons were at that point. Because it was very gray area very not talked about it was very taboo. You know what I mean. Yeah. So back in 1999 Canada came up with a medical licensing for medical patients. So it was about 2012 when I jumped in it. And it was a very close colleague mentor of mine who introduced me to the program. So with my certain medical conditions that I had going on in my early 30s, and stuff like that, you know? I thought, you know, might as well give it a try. And with giving it a try again a lot of trials and tribulations and errors and stuff like that just trying to figure out what this plant is all about. And what's going on in the industry, and how to work with the industry and stuff like that. So I got my first medical license with a good associate of mine, and you know, we popped a warehouse, and we just, had no idea what we were doing. Literally, and we thought it was easy as everyone thinks it is, you know you pop seed into a pot and put some lights on and magic happens! Just like- just the plant, you just grow the plant as simple as that, right? Everybody know how to take you out a little bit of water to it and you got some natural light and that's it! you ignore it and let it do its thing! Yeah, I wish it was that easy but no and you know it took a took us about 18 months to figure out what we were doing in this industry, and from there I started, I started, I started uniquely finding strains for myself, because you know, I've always had this hash traits, different strains, or different pains and being human beings, and everyone suffers through different medical conditions and stuff like that not everything is for everybody. So when I started off in 2012 would have been about 2013, close to 2014 when we finally banged off our first good crop. And from there we were understanding- So two years brother of very much experimentation? Striaght experimentation like I'm telling you that it's just like it was days where you just want to call it in, you know what I mean? but we fighters from the inside out and when you're doing this for compassionate and a passionate reason you know what I mean? You give it your everything. And, you know, we started we started finding different strains and you know crossbreeding and started making our own strains and stuff like that and, you know, I'm not gonna say I wish it was easier said and the rest was over, but you know, still till this day it's it's trials and tribulations and struggles and upcoming and stuff like that and- Yeah I hear you. I hear you. So you're youre- you're two years into it before you get a crop that you can actually produce a yield? That makes sense. (Yeah)(Okay) Not just producing a yield, actually produce something to the medical community. You know what I mean? That wasn't on your average scale, because you know I mean? Regardless, you put you grow a plant is still going to flower, it's still gonna harvest and stuff like that but it wasn't something that I was happy with wasn't something that I knew I could be completely satisfied with as myself as a medical patient. What- what about the yield early on, made it, not something that was good enough, as a product for you to put out and put your name behind it? It was just trials man trials and errors you know what I mean? Trying to figure out the lady, trying to figure out the nutrients trying to figure out what medium we use meaning medium like what kind of dirt we're using and what we're putting into our dirt and whatnot, so- Yewah, so when you, when you talk about the compassionate side and the medical side of this right? You- I feel your energy when you talk about you believe wholeheartedly in this product, and it's healing did. (Yeah) so let me just take a step back, just step back with me for a minute. You're before you get into this you get your medical your medical license that allows you to grow and develop this legally in Canada, correct? Right. Correct. Your- how much of your own personal medical issues. Did you feel like that this that this rectified by using this product? Like before you decided to do that, like, what, what gave you like the the push to say you know what this is, I feel like this is gonna help people better people's lives with a better my life so I feel like that this is a direction I want to head in. This isn't (well because) go ahead, (sorry.)(Go ahead) what was- what I was gonna say is, takes a lot of it takes a lot of fortitude bro to go in that direction in our communities. That's just real (Yeah). You have to go to your friends, your family and everybody else around you and say, I'm just putting myself in your shoes. It wasn't the direction I want to go and I'm sure that people are very critical of that at times? Right? There was Yeah, I'm sure, bro. Well people in our community are generally critical, so it's not, it's not a stretch for you to be criticized for for going in that direction. So for you to have to do that you must really really believe in what it is that you're doing. So, what (I truly do.) Yeah, so what has pushed you to say, you know, I'm just going to do this because I feel like this is, this is the way I'm going to help myself and I'm I help people around me. Allah hi bro, because I always believe that no one can judge you, but God, you know what I mean? God knows you're intense, right, and especially in our community and religion, people are quick to point the finger and create the, woah woah woah, look what this guys up to, look at that guy's up to, so for me, I just put all that aside right because I knew what it did for me as a human being, first of all, and as a medical patient, you know what I mean? It helped with my aches my pains, my mental health issues and whatnot. So, from the, you know, my family they were supportive to a certain degree because they knew it was all legal and stuff like that and they knew that the industry in Canada was a little bit different than around the world and whatnot, it still was till this day still get criticized it through the communities and stuff like that and messages, and stuff like that and I just pushed myself to it because I believed in me and I believed in what it did for me as a person like it's not for everybody, you know what I mean? (Yeah yeah yeah) I don't push it on just the type of product type of thing, but for me I believe in what it did for me, and how it helped me in, in tremendous ways and throughout my years doing it, you know making during the cannabis plant itself into oils and stuff like that and you know getting higher concentrates, and seeing how it helped other people, it just kept on building a love and a passion for what I'm doing as I'm doing something in the right direction I'm doing something for the good of my own self and for the people in my community and the people around me. Some of the some of the examples of people that you-you ran across. And the last few years I'm sure people, they receive your products here your your your your derivatives or your products the stuff that you're selling right? The plants, I don't know what you're using channels on. Is it is it plants? Derivatives? what are the products, exactly that you create. Oh, we created, you know plant itself by crossbreeding you know certain strains, you know? (Yeah) just type, you know it's like a Cush with a sativa and making a hybrid across the two sativa together to get you some like super sativa going to big indicas together and like breeding those out and having like a super strain type of thing and finding different specs on the CBD levels and THC levels and trying to just create something that I found that would help myself and other patients and stuff like that. And all throughout that process you're kind of chipping away at the puzzle? youre figure it out? (Always) yeah youre figuring it out okay this works best for this, this works best for that, and you're kind of creating your your breed formulation. And the feedback that you're getting from the people that are buying the product and that's that's essential bro throughout that process right? What are you hearing back from people year 14 year 15 year 16, like what what are some of the things, some of the issues that people have been able to solve and resolve to this product? Um, just not more or less so seeing that not no more so hearing was seeing, you know? Now, people go through cancer, and stuff like that, going through chemotherapy and not losing their hair, not losing their appetite, not losing their, their, their humanity, you know what I mean? And giving people and myself, a reason you know what I mean? Because this thing is this plant this whole outlook on until has been, you know, you know haram we've consolidated (right negative), however you want to say it but just seeing, yeah very negative! And but just seeing the help and gave out to people like one of my very first patients having her go from using a walker most of her life to walking freely and running again was something that, you know, money cant give you and seeing it and and watching it happen, and just feeling the love from the people, my own personal experience with my father in law man, bless his soul, before he passed away from cancer when he was, you know, giving him that extra time and just watching him go through chemo, and watching him keep his hair and keep his appetite and keep his weight up you know what I mean? and is really- friend of to me who also passed away from cancer you know I mean? The same thing with her, you know, going through the radiation and the chemo and all these other things and just finding certain strains that would work with people you know and I mean? And it's not easy finding a certain strain that can work with, with anyone or everybody because I got well, like I've been saying for many years now you've got different strains for different paints so it was more or less seeing the outcome and the results of the human being itself, you know, achieving the best they can, is what kept me pushing and going, and moving forward in my industry and under that, you know, like Allah blessed me with like a green thumb as we call it in this industry so you know ever since my first trials and errors, it's been a blessing and just doing it ever since. So, all that, you know, all that criticism kind of just dissipates bro, if I if I'm. Yeah, it really it's irrelevant. (It is) if I'm creating a product and this and this and this product is showing, let's let's just say any product whatever product it is. And this and, and this product is showing promise for people and it's helping people. You know, I started listening to all this criticism is just white noise at that point man, yeah? It is you know, especially when you know especially coming from the Muslim community you know I mean? Like I started having sheikh come up to me and asked me about cannabis and stuff like that and wanted to have more questions that they had that they wanted answered, You know what I mean? And what I do, why I do it and stuff like that and it became a very interesting thing my god very interesting you know what I mean? And when people realize he found out what I did, and they found the reason for why I did what I did. It was kind of like almost overlooked. (Yeah) and almost like okayed in a way. (Yeah) and it's you know by talking to me Do you feel my passion about it, how strong I feel about it so it kind of, kind of, kind of took a good turn for itself and like I said it just white noise doubt everything else you know what I mean. Absolutely, absolutely, so, you, you. Let's take a step back, one more time. All right, is this your Saeed, the brother before you start Sai Fi, that person. Brother, thats young, you know that's gonna- you know, Junior High School in high school, Who's that guy? Whos that guy? That guy like I was just you know a fun happy loving type of guy you know what I mean? Into sports into activities into anything any normal high school, young man would be into and stuff like that, you know? (Yeah. So youre) you're running a shawarma stand. Running a shawarma stand? We got one of those you know what I mean? youre one of the first- one of these in Canada actually on the West Coast back in 96 first wants to open up a shawarma stand in a falafel stance, I always grew up in my own kind of business environment you know what I mean? So, yeah, for sur, for sure. I think that's sometimes that's a that's almost culturally ingrained yeah? Oh, yeah. So you start you start this medical marijuana dispensary with a with a partner. That was 2003- No it not dispensary, it was just production! was just for medical, we didn't retail anything or sell anything we did everything under research and development. I understand, I understand, so you- What is the status of that now is it still under retail? Is it still under development? or what is the produc? of a product now still research and development, and consulting, so I try to help other people achieve their goals and their dreams and stuff like that from government facilities to in house medical facilities to your mom and pop shop and stuff like that just trying to give everybody who's gotten their own medical license, an opportunity to kind of skip the trials in there and just kind of have that Sai fi approved product, almost off your first harvest, I got you, I got you, so the product is not, you dont- Your business is not a finished product business? No. what it is- Yeah, I understand, I understand it's not a retail business. (No) Its a development business. Definitely, and research and development. I understand, that's very, very interesting. Okay. So, what is the current status right now, of Canadian- the Canadian situation in terms of of that of this product line and now. And how is developing in that industry? Whats the industry status right now? The industry statuses move more towards government legalization and craft shops and stuff like that so we have what we call micro micro licensing, where you can have up to 2500 square foot approved by the government and unlimited plant counts. Or you could become a licensed producer but that means you got to have some deep pockets and over the last five years with the whole license producing thing the LP thing going on with our government and Health Canada, changing their bylaws and codes you've seen a lot of people you know go bankrupt and lose out, and that was more to do with the recreational side versus the medical side. So I've always take deep into the medical side because I believe in the medical side and I've always seen what the medical side can do to, to help a human being, and I just always believed in it that way versus a recreational. Let's just get high and kick back and, you know, woah woah woah type of thing. (For sure, for sure) The medical, the medical properties of the product is crazy. I've seen it. (Yeah) I think that there. That's why it got legalized for medical purposes in a lot of states in the United States first, people reckon (Yeah definitely) So, dont know if you heard the news, a couple of days after I got you, after I spoke to you and got you on an episode here, New Jersey just legalize- (What?) I don't know if that if that hit you or not but- no yeah so that that happened two days ago, New Jersey voted to legalize recreational use of cannabis. I believe that that's that's the way the law was written you know you you know cannabis laws, you know, it's just not, it's not as clear cut, theres a lot of gray area. Right? Yeah, so it was a big move for New Jersey definitely I don't know all the details of the law, so I'm not well versed on it, but I know that it's, it's, we're moving in that direction as a state, right? Nice. So you, and every. When you hear about that you know that there are people that are going to be business minded, that are opportunistic that are going to jump into this industry and try to maximize or monetize that, right? what uh what what advice would you give them knowing everything that you know, and the amount of knowledge that you've accrued man 2012 to 2020. It's almost 10 years as a decade of knowledge. Yeah man, you know I know people like that somebody that somebody listening somebody watching right now and they're like, Listen, you know, and just- Do your homework! Oh man, do you do your homework right like just don't jump into it because someone's got a space or an idea like know what you're about to get yourself into you know what I mean? Because like I said in the beginning it's just not as easy as popping a plant into a pot and just waiting to do its thing like as a grower myself I've golden come through multiple situations where, for instance, your you know your AC would blow on you and your room gets too hot and your plants get stressed out and you get, you know, a bud rot or stem rot or you get an infection in your wound, and you get spider mites so, make sure you do your homework and understand who you're about to work with and what kind of knowledge, they've got before you just jump into bed with someone and just dump your life savings into it because you know this this whole industry can either make you or break you and, you're going to be doing it and trying to monetize and capitalize on it, make sure you do it for the right reasons you know what I mean? Because you I've seen out here in my own country in my own province and like my own state, I've seen a lot of companies go under because, they- they textbook growers as we call it, they aint got that real- ain't got that real hands on quality. If you don't know what you're doing you're going off a book, you're bound to go through your own trials and tribulations, I would say, do your research do your knowledge, find out what kind of things you want to really work with and work on. If you're going to be growing or dispensing or distributing whatever weights, make sure you have something that's quality and make sure that you know what you're about to get yourself into because, oh man, like it's a regular job man it's like a nine to five. And sometimes it's like a nine to nine, you know you're in your facility you're in your place and you're retrofitting or you're rebuilding or you're building from bottom up and, you know it's not easy. You know, (I bet) it's long hours and you know, I've got a 10 year old daughter- I got three kids so I've had a 10 year old and seven year old and an 18 month old and I barely got to see my 10 year old grow up. That's what I mean? Yeah yeah yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I spent so much time away from home, traveling across the country, you know, different conventions different venues and stuff like that, trying to get myself out there and get my name out there and stuff like that, that, you know? Its- it can take a lot out of yourself, you know what I mean, and you take a lot out of your family and stuff like that so just just be cautious on what you're about to jump into especially if you vote to use your life savings or whatnot to try to get into this industry because it's been legalized or whatnot, you know, the state or the country that you're in and stuff. So the thing that I just gathered by you, by you speaking, was that this industry is so it's so it's such a diverse industry and being a consultant Like being a consultant understraining this, the strains right that's a business in itself, distributing is a business in itself growing isn't a business, in itself, and bit just based on the research that I did which is limited, the derivative side of it is also a business by itself. You really have to understand where you where you're going to sit on the spectrum (Where youre going to fit in) Yeah! You know, I mean? like for me you know like it was a blessing like I've been able to, so far been able to handle everything, but it's all because of my learning experiences and we wanted to be out there doing everything you know so it wasn't easy because the producer on its own. And you know, marketing and branding network building stuff like that it's, it's done me in, no lie. Yeah, so you say you say you hit some of these conventions and you really network with these people. Hey, give me, give me an example of somebody that would reach out to you, like a potential client that would reach out to you personally and say, Mr. Sai Fi, Saeed, I need your I need your services, give me an example of that. That's pretty much by seeing your finished product. You know, I mean, so I would get a lot of business by people seeing what I could produce at the end of my, my days and stuff like that and how I got it to be like this. The size? the fruit? like, specific you know just the quality the texture. The, as we call in the industry the terpenes so the smell of it and the flavonoids the flavor of it. And the texture of it because you know you get this fluffy looking weed and no one wanted, you can rub this wrong rock know that you know you can drop on the ground and you know almost sounds like a quarter hitting the ground type of thing, you know, so that density aroma, these are these are the details of what the quality of the product is?(Exactly) Density, aroma, flavor. What are some of the other. What are some of the other ways that a novice look at a product and say this is a great product, this is not a great product? by burning it testing it, you know what I mean because looks can be deceiving too right like don't get me wrong, I've seen a lot of product over my years and look phenomenal but, you know, burn as black as that microphone right there versus as black as as white as your string on your shirt you know what I mean? And that's what any medical consumer wants is something that's high grade as we call it, or super loud or whatever whatever terms you want to use and the texture how it feel you don't want something that squishes right down and stays down you want to see some bounce back up in it or you want to be able to barely push down on it and some totally cake out as we call it, so it's just iced out with try cones. In, and whatnot. So you go to these conventions and you display, and based on (yeah) based on the, the yield that you display will walk up like what do you what is this guy doing differently? yeah so pretty much you know what I mean? They see your product and they see the different strain you've created and whatnot, or some of the generic strains that you've mastered. And you know, being in then you get labeled as a master grower and stuff like that really helps out with this just just by displaying your flowers out there man, and people who are in the industry whether they were vending or personally using or into government distribution and stuff like that would come in and try to pick you up and stuff like that and either try to have you on their team and whatnot. You know it's been a trip man it's like I've been out to Jamaica a couple of times, helping facilities out there and (crazy) across Canada and stuff like that so you know my counts really been able to speak on itself. It's crazy. And this, and you would say you would consider yourself a specialist in the strain development side of things? Strain development and you know, growing side of it and stuff like that so- The growing in the strain side of it, I got you. Very, very interesting man, I'm not, (Yeah) I'm not well well versed on the subject. I'm not. But I know that this industry is controversial, there's a lot there. I feel like that people right now, there's a lot of misinformation, but just don't really know a lot and they make judgment calls based on what they think they know versus what the reality of it is. Oh, that's very true. (Yeah) And also when the product is when, when people when I hear things like this product. I'm in a lot of pain and this product helps me in my life. This is something that anybody a reasonable person has to stop and think about(definitely) what the what the benefits are to people, definitely, like I always tell people right like this plan wasn't created by man, this was a god game plan. You know what I mean? It was put on this earth for a reason. Yeah, and I was explained to people, it's just like the pharmaceutical medicine you have two medicines like this you can either use it or abuse it, and you know what I mean?And using it for your own medical reasons and stuff like that. You got to understand the the personal benefits you get from it and you know like I always tell people you know men didn't create this this drug or this plant or however you want to label it as like this was a god given thing, you know what I mean? Grows from our Earth, It was it's been here, you know, maybe before mankind who knows you know that's another subject and stuff like that but it's just about you know understanding it, and different strains from different continents, different parts of the world, they all grow different they all work different than, you know, it's a trip. So you did- your your research your development your business, your craft, it took you out to Jamaica is a big yeah it culture of- of, you know, the use of this product, for a long time in Jamaica. Was there was any anything that you took away from that scenario? Oh man just, I actually gained a lot from there. You know what I mean? (Yeah, sure, can you speak on some of that?) Yeah, like for instance when I went out there you know what I mean I just thought, as myself, you know, taking my knowledge out there would have been, you know, truly, ultimately useful but not understanding, for instance the environment I'm walking into, you know what I mean? I'm going- I'm going in from an indoor facility where I'm mimicking sunlight and wings and all that stuff into a natural, natural place where I've got sunlight 12 and 12, which for a flower or for a gardener, like myself, that's what you use to flip your flower you know what I mean? So it's like, this is amazing like you're on flower season all year long and stuff like that. And then it came down to how can I help people with their vegetation you know get 18 hours of sunlight out of 12 hours of sunlight, understanding that bringing them, you know, having my strains out there, and stuff like that, the climatization that these plants would have to take the seeds would have to take that it wasn't going to pop off over the first time and stuff like that and these plants had to get used to a different culture and stuff like that and- They had to acclimate to the environment? Straight up man, like very much like you know and it was, it was. It's just amazing out there you know like some of the candidates that I seen from some of them, the local natural growers out there just blew my mind away because you know they don't use nutrients like we use across the country and stuff like that they really into like natural things and they're medium so like their dirt is so rich in nutrients and organics and stuff like that that is given right there you know what I mean? Like you don't really have to do much to get much in it it was good man because when I went out there, bringing some of my knowledge and working with the other growers out there and stuff like that, and you know, pounding- pounding it and, man it was great and to see the outcome and some of the companies out there that are doing it and you know, just Blessings. there's a- there's a- there's a definite difference just like any other plant between growing indoors in an environment where you're trying to replicate, God's gifts, like dirt climate sun, hours of sunlight, right, versus versus putting it in a warehouse and there's a difference. And you have to work. You have to work around those, those parameters when you're in a different climate. I mean you're in Vancouver, so Vancouver, the weather's nice, I mean real (Its chill man.) Yeah, got it, got a good place like that's what I've always loved, you know, growing cannabis. Im in, British Columbia because we dont- we got a nice geographies layout, we got nice weather got some fresh air mountain air, sea water and stuff like that. All depends on where on the West Coast you're located and stuff like that because I've got brothers who are five six hours away they grow some of the same strains as I do, they come out totally different. So, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So we talked about how how your life, your life transpired in terms of explaining this product you do and you do that really well of really educating people on what the. The health benefits are what the medical benefits are of this product, and how the business is is moving for you. What's next for you? Whats next for this? You plan on being a retail operation or, not really? No, I do have plans on it eventually but I've been just dealing with some like personal health issues right now and I'm just trying to jump back onto myself right now give myself that time back to, to get back in it. I'm always open for an opportunity and, in a way, and you know what I mean? Like, today I was just out looking at some places like that on a consulting gig right now and you know everyone's everyone's got their own ideas and their own minds made but eventually down the road I wouldn't mind getting into more retail sides of things, but I've been focusing more on my health last six months, and kind of taking a step back from everything and just working close with a few people and stuff like that and making sure their operations and stuff like that stay in flow. I seen that you posted something the other day about your health. Yeah, and when we spoke on it briefly over the phone. Yeah, I wish everything I hope everything works out for you in that in that area, man. (I appreciate that) I know, yeah, there's no, there's no such thing as wealth, without health, right? Yeah, there isnt(So sorry there.) Now all good, all good, is there is there anything that you want to, is there anything you want to add to the conversation in terms of the things that we spoke on the industry as a whole, the derivative side of it, is there anything on that side that you see that is moving in a very positive or negative way? Because I feel like it again in my on my very very brief amount of research that I've done I don't know a lot about this industry. The derivative side of it seems to me like it's it's really really big. So, it is. (Yeah) it's very very big because it's a controllable product. And once you extract that that that THC or is that correct? That's what they're looking at? It THC CBD THC CBN so there's like so many things that the like we've always talked and known about THC but throughout legalization and research and development you start finding out about different cannabinoids like CBN CBG CBN, CHC, and stuff like that like all have different aspects to the medical planet so, you know, my advice would be just do your research and knowledge on what you want to do and and understand what you're about to get yourself into, and it's a lucrative business, no matter which way you look at it is producing, brokering, retailing, distributing, and you know having contracts with the government and stuff like that because it's very important to stay within the laws and the boundaries of everything. You need to understand that completely, complete. Even if you don't understand it completely, just having a good understanding of it you know what I mean? Because like the laws are always going to change. Health Health Canada for me and my country like is always coming up with new solutions and whatnot and new plans and outlooks and stuff like that so Why, I read a few articles on the derivatives and the strength of these derivatives, right? Like, like people eating a bag of gummy bears and they, they're losing their mind, what is what's, what's our rule, like are they really really that potent and not strong? Yes, a thing like you know when you eat an edible, it doesn't kick in right away, you know, I mean? Sometimes gummy bears and then cookies just say so fucking good excuse my language. You just want to eat them you know what I mean for the sake of eating them so next thing you know, you know, smoking it eating it like smoking it gives you an almost an instant instant effect. You know, I mean? (where you know that your body absorbs it) Yeah, its after two puffs you can be like, Yo, I'm good. Yeah, you eat two gummies and you're like ah shit it's like an hour, I haven't felt anything, and you pop another two. You know, you kind of recall in the, in the community you greened out, you know what I mean? Were all of a sudden it's your bloodstream and versus your smoke, them hitting your bloodstream a lot quicker you got the edibles that sit in your stomach and kicked everything else man like you got to be very, very, very cautious on what you intake and how you intake it and how much you intake and stuff like that because you know it kind of throws people on or off you know what I mean? And especially somebody who doesn't really medicate too much and they start using it you know it's going to turn them off or the green out and they just don't have a good time, you know? Sure, absolutely. There's not an intended effect, right? So yeah, exactly. My, my biggest retail experience with this with this industry was when I was in Vegas. I go to like shows every day for manufacturing for apparel for everything. And I go to these shows and I'm seeing like buses ride by with like med men, MED , and these other companies, and it's like, it's crazy.The amount of retail distribution, there is out there, it's really really become like a full blown industry, and it's full scale facilities like security(oh yeah) Security. Like everything like it is insane! And the amount of like- the amount of like, creative, innovative solutions for people to experience the product without taking the product or stealing the product or whatever the case may be, like they had, like, they had things in the counters bro where you can smell the product without touching it. Were events in it, and you just kind of move the thing I'm looking at this like wow this is insane bro like how much, how much thought and effort goes into it? Theres stores by some of these companies that look like literally look like Apple stores, the amount of money that they're putting into.(Im telling you.) So who are these? Are these are private investors? Theyre private equity firm? Like who's who's dumping all this money into these? Investors man and that's what it comes down to mainly just investors you know I mean? People that want to be in the industry. And there's a 10 type of thing and understanding that, you know, not everybody has deep pockets to start a facility like how you spoke about security and stuff like that and these costs millions and millions of dollars and stuff like that right so you have different groups, Dustin groups, people, individuals or whatnot and firms and stuff like that that all, you know, jump in on it and you know you have some that are into marketing into retail. It's like I you said the Apple Store layout and stuff like that and how they got everything. Viewed out displayed out there and stuff like that it's all it's a team effort. You know what I mean? Sure, they really, they really understand the retail aspect of what it is that they're doing. So yeah, for those of you that are watching that just tuned in this is this is a good friend of mine Saeed name of his company, Sai Fai, and if they if they want to check you out, they want to look at what it is that you do they want to follow your story, personally, is a very interesting one. I do, where can they find you exactly?, yes find me on Instagram. Pretty much all taken.(Whats that handle?) thats S A I, sai underscore fi underscore 420 so SAI_FI_420 will add that in our in our description section of the video in the, in the podcast. I'm very very interesting brother, I learned a lot from you. I didn't, I didn't really understand the business model, in itself, but I got it I got a better, I got a better picture now, it's very diverse. Yeah team effort man Insane. Thank you so much for being on here man I really, I really appreciate and respect the fact that you came on here and shared your story. I'm gonna be looking out for you and God willing, everything goes right with the, with the health situation. All right, we're praying for you. And just, yeah and it's it seems like your heart and your mind is settled, keep doing your thing! Yeah. Appreciate that. You made me a fan! Absolutely, absolutely. Absolutely shame you guys having me on and stuff like that and you know it's not like I always tell people when it comes to support man you can do support via charity or be agreed and like how I've always done my work with all my family and friends and support on charity levels you know I mean? By posting something or giving a brother something, you know, a strange name like one of our mutual brothers I've given them all my strains like the TTOMG the TTMKs you know those Tt staff, our brother Tone Trump you know what I mean? So, I'll try to make shit, shout out to my brother Tone Trump- Shout out to our brother Tone Trump hes going to be on here by the way. Yeah, one of the episode yeah shout out to the brother Tone Trump, he, hes very very well networked. The Muslim guy just has a very very long reach. And he's, he's pretty, hes pretty he pretty much represents a lot of the Muslim community- community online man, he really does. He really does he does it with such honor blessings man. (For sure) I mean, very proud to have that man as my brother's business partner, as you know my mentor, everything in my life so- sure. Shout out to the brother Tone Trump for sure. So if you guys are watching this is another episode of the, of The Hustleman Show, I got my man sci fi, my man Saeed out here. Very, very interesting story. 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